Last Updated: June 12, 2021
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RPGBOT uses the color coding scheme which has become common among Pathfinder build handbooks. Also note that many colored items are also links to the Paizo SRD.
- : Bad, useless options, or options which are extremely situational. Nearly never useful.
- : OK options, or useful options that only apply in rare circumstances. Useful sometimes.
- : Good options. Useful often.
- : Fantastic options, often essential to the function of your character. Useful very frequently.
- (Ex): Situational, but this is the sort of thing which Vigilantes do frequently. It’s also one of very few talents which crosses the border between your identities.
(Ex): Consider vigilantes who
exist in popular fiction: How many of them are a middle-class laborer? How
many are farmers? Smiths? Coopers? None. Being a prominent merchant or noble
presents access, influence, and resources far beyond the reach of artisans
and professionals. Taking this talent actually makes your character
less powerful. It’s especially odd since you can take this at any
point in your career and your character suddenly stops being a noble and
starts being a craftsman.
- (Ex): Compared to the amount of money which one needs to stick to the level/gold curve in Pathfinder, the pittance you get from Craft/Profession is a pittance.
- (Ex): I’ve never been in a situation where there was a time limit strict enough that this mattered.
(Ex): You could easily do
this with the Disguise skill, but you have limited skill ranks and a talent
for a +20 bonus to a common usage of the skill is a decent investment.
(Su): This stretches how
much you can justify spending talents to avoid putting ranks into
Disguise. I would think that if you were planning to use disguises this
much you would put enough resources into it that you don’t need to spend
- (Su): Very situational. With the exception of the scrying component, you could do all of this with a Disguise check. It takes three talents to reach this point, which is far too much cost to avoid spending skill ranks on Disguise.
- (Su): This stretches how much you can justify spending talents to avoid putting ranks into Disguise. I would think that if you were planning to use disguises this much you would put enough resources into it that you don’t need to spend talents.
- (Ex): Situational, but one of few talents which carries over between identities.
(Ex): If you need this
frequently enough to justify it, you’re not doing a good enough job
concealing your identity. Instead of wasting a talent, take the time to
create a distraction or find somewhere secluded to change your pants.
- (Ex): Unless you’re planning to change appearances in combat, you really shouldn’t need this.
(Ex): The Renown mechanic fits the
theme and mechanics of the Vigilante exceptionally well. The size of the
community is a strict limiting factor, but additional talents allow you to
quickly expand it. The improved disposition and Intimidate bonus are both
- (Ex): If you use a lot of low-cost magic items like potions, scrolls, and wands, this can save you a small fortune over the course of your career.
- (Ex): Pathfinder is a game where a level 2 character frequently has enough gold in their pocket to destabilize the local economy. Even with Incredible Renown, the presence of taxes and bribes would need to be absurdly large to justify wasting a talent on this.
(Ex): You should be
able to do this without a talent.
- (Ex): You shouldn’t need this enough to spend a talent on it. If Zones of Truth are common enough that you need this your GM is probably being a bit unfair toward your character.
(Ex): Renown’s population
cap is too small to get by in all but the smallest communities.
- (Ex): Great Renown is likely sufficient in most games.
- (Ex): You could accomplish the same thing with some NPC hirelings.
you’re travelling a lot you’ll never need this.
- (Ex): If you’re traveling enough to justify this you shouldn’t be playing a Vigilante.
- (Ex): Very situational. Unless your foes have access to divination magic (a distinct possibility in Pathfinder), this can be handled by mundane means without spending a talent. Even then, you can have a party member cast Nondetection.
- : It certainly beats Skill Focus. I recommend using this to boost your Face skills. Since you get more bonuses at higher levels, there’s no rush to pick this up.