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How would I multiclass shadow monk and rogue in DnD? There’s some redundancy, but there are also a few cool things like unarmored defense, expertise, and weapon mastery to consider.
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more D and D multiclassing. All right,
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this time we're looking at the rogue and
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the warrior of shadow monk. So, there's
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some similarities and some differences
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between the 2014 rules and the 2024
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rules here. In the 2014 rules, the way
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of shadow monk could cast darkness, but
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they couldn't see through their own
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darkness, which created kind of a huge
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problem. You could move in and out of
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the darkness, which was very convenient,
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but at the same time, you couldn't
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attack within it. So, you had to use it
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as kind of a a place to retreat to
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during combat or as an area control
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thing. In the 2024 rules, warrior of
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shadow can see through their own
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darkness, which is really really
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powerful. That makes it especially
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appealing for the rogue. At the same
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time, monks looking at rogue are looking
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at cunning action, sneak attack, weapon
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proficiencies, things like that. Um, the
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weapon proficiencies aren't going to be
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as useful as you might hope because most
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of those don't qualify as monk weapons.
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So, you're not going to get all the
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benefits of using those weapons as a
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monk. In the 2024 rules, the updates to
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martial arts and the focus system. Um,
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those made cunning action much less
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appealing for the monk because now a lot
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of those things are free for the monk
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instead of costing key points like they
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did in 2014. So, if we look at how we
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multiclass the two, you're going to want
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to figure out which one is the dip,
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which one is your primary class. Um,
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monk is a class that really, really
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needs you to focus on the class so you
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can advance your pool of focus points.
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Similarly, rogue needs you to focus on
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rogue so that you can continue advancing
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your sneak attack. Monks can use weapons
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that will qualify for sneak attack.
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Dagger is probably your best bet, but
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fortunately, you have the martial arts
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die to increase the damage there. Um, so
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monks can deal sneak attack, but not
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with their unarmed strike. So those
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bonus action attacks become much less
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appealing for the rogue than they are
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for the monk. Conversely, like the the
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monk isn't going to get a ton of value
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out of just one or two sneak attack
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dice. So if you're a monk dipping into
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rogue, you're going in for expertise
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most likely and maybe for subclass
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features if you go far enough. If you're
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rogue looking at monk, you're you're
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probably going for warrior of shadow so
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you can get the ability to cast darkness
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and then see through it. Personally, if
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I'm if I'm picking which one to focus
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on, I would go for rogue, three levels
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in Warrior of Shadow. That will let you
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cast darkness three times per short
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rest, which is more than enough in the
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vast majority of campaigns. And then you
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have perpetual advantage on attacks to
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hit and disadvantage on attacks against
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you. You don't need to hide because you
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already have advantage on all of your
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attacks. And you can use cunning action
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or the martial arts thing, I'm
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forgetting the name right now, step of
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the wind. There we go. Uh, you can use
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either one and still be incredibly fast.
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Enemies can't move fast enough to get
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away from you. Since you already have
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advantage, you don't need to use a Vex
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weapon like a rapier or a shortsord as
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your primary weapon.
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